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Portuguese language mailing list

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What I want to do

Create a Portuguese language mailing list.

Motivation

There are some people from Brazil (and I hope other Portuguese speaking countries) on the main Public Lab mailing list. Having a mailing list in Portuguese will allow people that doesn't speak English to be part of the community.

Questions and next steps

The main question is: there are enough people in Public Lab mailing list that speak portuguese and are interested in the creation of a Portuguese speakin mailing list?

Also: The creation of this list will improve communication and open space for people that don't speak English to join the Public Lab community?

Ives Rocha and I where discussing the best way to discover if the creation of the list makes sense. I think that we can test is asking if there are people on Public Lab mailing list that speaks Portuguese and have interest in the creation of a Portuguese language list. If there are at least 10 people, we think that it can be enough people the create a new list.

Why I'm interested

I'm part of innovation lab (EcoLab) that have projects that uses sensors to monitor air and water quality. For me it's interesting to share what we are learning on the EcoLab and also learn with other people.


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That would be great! I can think of maybe 3-4 people who'd probably want to join! At least one organizer (http://publiclab.org/wiki/organizers) speaks portuguese too.

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Hi VJ, this is a very clear statement, thank you! from an email thread earlier this year, there are six additional Portuguese speakers (in addition to you and Ives) who have been contemplating a Portuguese language mailing list: @Markos , @gufalei , @wagnerjg , Ricardo Abad, Lucas Bambozzi, and @P_Silva_82 . I just copied you into that email thread. I think this group has three interested organizers--which is very helpful. How have the conversations between you and @Ives been going?

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I thing that would be interesting. We are from Brasil, part of a group, coletivo tecnotrecos, and we care for more and more people beein able to use it....

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Hi @Hiure , great to hear from you! What part of Brasil are you from? I'm going to copy you into an email thread, but let's keep most of our discussions happening here.

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Hi Liz, Thanks for your effort to stimulate the integration of Portuguese speakers in the activities of the Public Lab.

Hi Hiure, I am ready to collaborate with a list of open knowledge in Portuguese, mainly with projects related to the theme "Water".

How can I help?

Best Regards, Markos

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Hi Liz, Markos and everybody, I am a phiyicist and part of coletivo tecnotrecos.that cares about education, open knowledge and art. We dont have a stable place , but we are always around rio, sao paulo e minas. We are in the beggining of our researchs, but really engaged about sharing what we have been learning., we are all ready to help with the list, if you could tell us how to, Liz. What part of brasil do you live Marko ?

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Hi Hiure,

I work in Rio de Janeiro.

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Hi guys, I think we can start to speak in Portuguese here, don't you? (Non-portuguese speakers can write on any other language, don't worry! We all can use Google Tradutor to figure it out! hehehe)

Dou todo apoio à lista em Português! @vjpixel e eu conversamos sobre o tema e achamos que é uma boa ideia para começar a integrar e aumentar nossa cooperação - a comunicação fica muito mais fácil se utilizarmos o português.

Eu trabalho no Rio de Janeiro também, no Centro. Quando consolidarmos/criarmos a lista, poderíamos marcar um encontro para dividirmos nossas experiências e pensar em colaborações.

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Olá @ives e @Markos, estou nesse momento no Rio de Janeiro e esta rolando um evento super interessante que é o Ciencia Aberta (http://www.cienciaaberta.net/encontro2014/) deem uma olhada vai rolar até sexta feira e esta sendo discutido sobre essa perspectiva da ciência livre e sobre pesquisa livre e tudo mais....

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O que vcs acham da gente se encontrar aqui, vou ficar até quinta na cidade...

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oi gente,

nas próximas 2 semanas vou ministrar um curso na Bahia e não consigo ir ao Rio, mas dou topo apoio para quem puder fazer um encontro presencial aí.

somos 4 na discussão aqui. somando @gufalei que pode ser pressionado a se engajar, 5. acho que se tivermos mais 5 pessoas comentando aqui, já vale criar a lista.

abs

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Oi Pessoal,

Valeu a dica sobre o evento de Ciência Aberta.

Vou ver se consigo ir na quarta-feira.

E como seria a criação da lista de discussão?

Qual o mecanismo?

Qualquer um de nós cria uma lista no Google, ou pedimos à Liz para criar dentro da estrutura do PublicLab?

Um Abraço, Markos

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Considerem-me devidamente pressionado, eu participo!

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Olá todxs, tbm gostaria de ter participado do ciência aberta, rola um feedback por aqui de quem foi? ;)

e vamos criar a lista então, mais de 5!

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@GSan, mas do que isso cara vc pode acompanhar via stream http://www.cienciaaberta.net/encontro2014/ ao vivo e todo material vai sendo colocado de maneira livre e aberta para todos

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e ta rolando agora e vai até as 18h

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\o/ acompanhando!

Valeu @hiure ;)

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somos 6, 7 com Lucas Bambozzi com quem falei diretamente. será que vale criarmos a lista?

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Hey guys, you have more than enough people to start a list. Super cool. @vjpixel and @ives when do you want to jump on Skype with me to make it happen?

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Boa pessoal quando vai sair a lista para idioma português acabei de assinar a lista do public lab alguém do nordeste por aqui??

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eu fico entre Salvador e São Paulo.

@liz and @ives, how about a meeting this friday 4 pm UTC?

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Oi Pessoal, Quem estiver participando do Latinoware pode aproveitar e assistir a palestra "Hackeando as Águas" que vai rolar dia 15 no Espaço Mercosul às 16:00h. E no dia 16, no Espaço Robótica das 14:00 às 18:00 h. Um Abraço, Markos

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@vjpixel and @ives I can do friday if need be (I will have been up all night on a plane flight), but if you could do Tuesday instead i'd really appreciate it. Let me know either way. Once we get on skype, I"ll support you to make the mailing list, add the members, and update publiclab.org/lists YAY!

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@liz how about next wednesday

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sure @vjpixel , i''m available before 11am and after 3:30pm eastern time. would any time work for you?

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so my proposal Wednesday, 22th, is 4 pm EST.

let's wait for @ives to know if this day/time works for him.

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Hey guys, let's get together! We heard from Gustavo Togeiro Alckmin via Facebook who is also interested, and I invited him to join our thread here. How about Monday?

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Olá, galera.

Como vão vocês? Tudo bom? Eu sou o Gustavo que a Liz menciona, sou agrônomo e atualmente moro no Vale do Paraíba em SP. Eu quero criar um chapter em São José dos Campos para: 1) promover o estudo de ciência entre crianças e jovens; 2) reunir pessoas que tenham interesse em ciências ambientais, inovação e promoção de conhecimento aberto; 3) Discutir propostas, projetos e pesquisas no Vale do Paraíba.

Um abraço a todos, meu email é gtalckmin@hotmail.com

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@liz and @vjpixel I'm sorry, but was without usable internet on the last 2 weeks. Can we try to skype tomorrow, 4PM EST? I'm going out for one-week breek next wed, so if you can't tomorrow, I'll be back and free on November 5th to 7th. Let me know when is better to you all!

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Oi @gtalckmin, gostei das suas 3 propostas! Trabalho com mapeamento digital com adolescentes e jovens e acho que temos muito o que conversar! Como vc deve ter percebido, estamos tentando criar uma lista do Public Lab em português e creio que assim que ela estiver no ar este pode ser o tema de debate inicial: estratégias de divulgação e criação de uma cultura científica entre crianças e jovens brasileiros!

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Tomorrow works great for me! Anytime. I put 4pm EST on the calendar. Skype? I'm hi.liz

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@liz cool! Hoping @vjpixel either available!

If there's someone else reading us and wanting to participate of the call, please let us know it here and add me on ivesrocha at Skype!

Seeyou!

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@ives @liz @vjpixel.

Hey guys, feel free to skype me at any time. The only problem is that I am using a 3G connection, so it won't be a perfect skype call.

As Ives and I were discussing, I am very excited about doing some ecology/mapping work with youngsters.

Cheers to you all.

Gustavo

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today works for me. Ill keep Skype open, my ID isvjpixel`.

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great, our goal is to create the mailing list. Can someone look back through the thread to figure out what we wanted to name it?

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Hi @liz, actually we didn't talk about it... I think we can name it "publiclab-brasil" or something using both "Brasil" and "PublicLab". Another option is to "translate" the name, using "Laboratório Público", which is better if we believe that another Portuguese speakers (non-Brazilian) want to join us.

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how about laboratóriopúblico-brasil or laboratóriopúblico-português ? Am I right in understanding that you want it to be primarily a Portuguese language list?

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I think laboratóriopúblico- is long. maybe we can use plots-brasil, most of the places' lists use this name pattern.

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I agree on VJpixel on that one: using the name pattern should be the best option. Just one thing: as the initial proposal was to have a portuguese language mailing list, I reckon we should not name it "plots-brasil" (even though I liked it). Maybe, labpublico?

Um abraço,

Gustavo

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Oi pessoal,

Acho que a gente pode, de repente, abrir uma votação para definir o nome. Na terça-feira conversei com Liz e eu também achei o nome bem grande. Uma outra opção seria "publiclab-portugues". Pelo padrão das outras listas (http://publiclab.org/lists), acho que a gente pode ficar com a sugestão do Gustavo, "labpublico", e deixar a "plots-brasil" para um momento futuro, quando a gente começar a desenvolver parcerias/trabalhos especificamente no Brasil (ou por cidades)...

Por enquanto, temos as opções:

a) publiclab-portugues b) plots-brasil c) labpublico

Eu voto em "labpublico".

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não acham que 'labpublico' pode gerar uma confusão com 'laboratoriopublico', já existente?

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Eu voto em "publiclab-portugues".

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fala galera, vejo que a discussão já deu uma avançada, mesmo um tempo sem comentar tennho acompanhado a rposa. Pois bem meu voto é por "publiclab-portugues"

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+1 para "publiclab-portugues"

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+1 para "publiclab-portugues"

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+1 para "publiclab-portugues"

(acho que fechou a maioria)

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+1 "publiclab-portugues" fechou!

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Ok, galera! :D E aí, criamos a lista? @vjpixel e @yves? Estouramos um champagne para comemorar?

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haha! @ives knows how to create the list--let us know when you set it up or if i can help in any way. In the meantime, can i request you guys to make this page better: http://publiclab.org/wiki/brasil. We will be connecting the new mailing list (once it's created) to appear in the left sidebar of /brasil.

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Oi pessoal, tirei uma semana de férias, por isso demorei um pouco para voltar a responder aqui. Estou voltando hoje.

Já que elegemos nossa lista para ser "publiclab-portugues", vou criá-la e em breve envio o convite para vocês! Fiquem a vontade para começar a editar a nossa página brasileira http://publiclab.org/wiki/brasil!

Abs e até mais!

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Olá pessoal, nossa lista está criada! \o/ http://groups.google.com/group/publiclab-portugues Peço que se inscrevam lá!

Editei também a página das listas do Public Lab (http://publiclab.org/lists), então novos usuários poderão nos achar também. Fiquem a vontade para convidar outras pessoas e começarem tópicos!

Vamos comemorar!

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Oi pessoal,

Só para lembrar (afinal, sexta a tarde é um péssimo momento para mandar msgs de trabalho... hehehe). Nossa lista está criada! \o/ http://groups.google.com/group/publiclab-portugues Peço que se inscrevam lá!

Até o momento, @ives, @liz, @gtalckmin, @mjleon e @markos e o Adrian estamos inscritos. Aguardo mais alguns entrarem para criar um tópico de apresentação e começarmos!

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Dentro!

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